They’re available from https://www.phycohealth.com/
Hi Dr Winberg
Today the Landline program ran the article on yourself and the seaweed tablets and other products. During the segment you were selling product at a market in Sydney.
Can you please advise where we can source your product either online or in Perth WA.
Radically the incorrect information
Thanks so much for the additional information. With your change in diet approximately how long did it take to see an improvement in your energy levels? Did you increase your movement activities gradually – I will try and get Dr Sarah Myhill’s book and see her what her recommendations are. Realise everyone is affected differently and will improve with different remedies also but its good to know someone who has been in a similar situation and had success following these recommendations. Are you back to your normal routine now? Hopefully my sister is open to the idea and will herself communicate through the forum for some support when trying this program. Could she get in touch with you also? Really appreciate your reply so thank you.
My first steps to recovering from Chronic Fatigue started after I read Dr. Sarah Myhill’s book on treating CFS. I followed many of her recommendations. She advised eating a paleo diet as her patients seemed to improve when on it. So for a year I ate a strict paleo diet and then slowly started reintroducing different foods. I also started eating probiotic food like homemade kefir, sauerkraut and yogurt. I also started taking a probiotic supplement which contained many different bacteria including soil bacteria. Dr Mosley also recommends prebiotic foods and I now take Inulin every day. I can now eat most food except raw tomato which gives me brain fog and fatigue about 2 hours after eating it and gluten which gives me digestive problems. However, I still avoid high carbohydrate foods like potatoes, rice and of course bread and pasta and eat very little processed food. When I first went on the Paleo diet I lost 13lbs in weight, which was a lot for me as I am only 4ft 10’ tall. Now my weight is steady at 7st 11lbs.
However, the problem with CFS is that it is probably caused by many different things and so what works for one person may not work for another. I believe my CFS was caused by Blastocystis Hominis (which I think I got in Switzerland as I started being ill a month after the holiday). This severely affected my gut bacteria and so changing my diet (along with taking Diatomaceous Earth to eradicate the parasite) was instrumental in me getting better. All I can say is that if nothing else has helped your sister then it is worth giving the clever guts diet a try. Once you get your head round the new way of eating you will realise that it a very nutritious and satisfying diet. I can’t see me ever returning to my old way of eating.
Hi Pearsey, I searched the forum and found your posts. I have just come across ‘the clever guts diet’ book and hoping to help and recommend this for my sister who has been suffering from chronic fatigue since 2014. She has done a lot of testing and tried many things but has had no huge improvement. She has been bedridden for most of the time with very little energy, however recently has put on a huge amount of weight (approx 20kg within a year) and now has other health associated issues. Can you let me know how you have managed to get on top of your chronic fatigue and if the diets have helped you? Thanks!
I am hoping to help my sister who has experienced chronic fatigue for five years. She has been seeing a GP but has shown no great improvement in energy levels (spends majority of time in bed) and developed greater health problems with a large weight gain (approx 20kg in one year) and associated issues with being overweight. Am interested in suggesting to her the 12 week fast 800 diet to reduce her weight but should she be doing the clever guts diet first to treat her gut? At the moment her exercise capabilities are also limited due to low energy levels. Has anyone else suffered from chronic fatigue and had good results following these diet recommendations? Are there any recommendations for a GP who has assisted with this program /or the testing or helped someone else with chronic fatigue and had positive results within Perth, Western Australia. Is testing for individual diets now available within Perth/Australia or if not when will this be available. Thanks.
I have had lifelong depression and food sensitivity. In the last few years I’ve noticed that 1-2 hours after a fatty meal (or even a lot of cashews), my depression worsens. Shortly after taking probiotics it amplified, and taking a week of antibiotics calmed it down (although I became very sleepy). I suspect this is related to SIBO (small intestinal bacteria overgrowth).
– One possibility – endotoxins are released from bacteria from saturated fat.
– Another random possibility – Deoxycholic acid, a secondary bile acids, which are metabolic byproducts of intestinal bacteria. This seems to have an affect on the immune system (which is often coupled with mood).
I wanted to throw this out there in case anyone finds this helpful. I found a couple of posts from googling with others that have the same symptoms, but I had to dig deep. Any feedback is welcome!
To the best of my knowledge the easiest way to tell them apart is that potato starch (the one you want) is a pure white fine powder, potato flour is slightly courser and cream/beige in colour.
Hope that helps
I have been trying my own resistant potato starch study and believed it may be helping the arthritis in my fingers although this could also be the result of eliminating sugar from my diet.
Unfortunately I have been experiencing unusual cramping in my left arm & now my wife who has been taking a teaspoon of “potato starch” is experiencing similar cramping???
This leads to my main concern…. Here in Queensland Australia I have bought several bags of Lotus Potato Flour that have the word STARCH clearly under the word flour… I have also now discovered that there is a clear distinction between potato starch & potato flour… Lotus also have a similar packet stating potato starch…. how can I find out if this is still potato flour and has anybody else experienced muscular cramps
It’s Christensenella. Not a bacteria I was born with by the sound of it.😉
Can someone please remind me of the name of the gut bug that some people are born with that enables them to stay slim throughout their life regardless?
Hi! I do a couple of days 18:6 and tend to stop eating after lunch, skipping my evening meal. I usually have Oat milk in my morning coffee which I now prefer to cow milk. It gives the coffee a nutty flavour and enhances it for me!
As far as I know nothing has transpired Re this study.
Atlas biomed did my gut biome test. They seem good
I have just scrolled through all the posts from 2017 – 2018. Did this study ever get off the ground and does anyone ever get a reply? I am also interested.
I will be visiting the UK from Australia in September. Does anyone know where I can get my Microbiome tested as there is not much happening down under (please excuse the pun).
Hi Surfergirl – and others,
Well, it’s been a long journey. Things went from bad to worse and I was diagnosed with IBS for which I was doing everything, diligently, to manage. However, nothing worked and I became very depressed and wondered how I could even keep on working. It’s a whole world of sufferers out there.
I live in Sydney Australia and I heard, from my chemist, about The Centre for Digestive Diseases. I made an appointment with Professor Borody who believes this is essentially an untreated long term infection often from C Difficile. I had to wait 14 months as people come from all over the world to see him. I had a colonoiscopy and was subsequently given two antibiotics to take, one made by a compounding chemist, the other a fairly obscure antibiotic. Within 20 mins of taking my first dose the bloating started to subside, then the gas reduced, the burning went away and over the next few days all symptoms virtually went. I was elated yet just waiting for it to come back. I didn’t believe that could so “simply” be the answer. It was. Early this year I had a bout of gastro and the symptoms came back albeit very mildly. Enough that I recognised the distinctive body sensations and feelings… including depression. I immediately took a short dose of the meds and have been symptom free ever since. This, to me, is a miracle. I still follow everything Dr Mosley advocates – not always strictly but do believe that if you’re following all the guidelines and still have considerable problems there’s something else going on and a lot of this is as Prof Borody says. The walls of his office are papered with testamonials. I will be forever grateful. Good luck to all of you!
Have you looked into the high intensity training that MM suggested to try lower your weight?
It seems to be a good thing if you doctor agrees, as its less time consuming than spending hours at the gym or slogging up the pavement.
I prefer team sports, but have found this has helped to move things along before.
Hello All, I have alot of reflux problems had 2 operations, a pyloraplasty to open the other end of my stomach so food can go down due to gastropersis (paralysis of verve in stomach). My question is I can try the fasting however I have hypoglycemia (low blood sugar level) has anyone have this condition and still do fasting because I find it difficult.
Can you get the test kit in Australia I cant seem to find link n website.
Thanking you in advance.
I would love to hear how you have fared since your initial post.
I have recently been diagnosed with gastritis and am planning to reset my bi ome, I would also love to try the daytwo test but it is still unavailable in Australia.
Also who was the website that did offer fecal testing in Australia please?
I had thought i was a fairly healthy young Aussie, decent diet, try not to eat heavily processed foods at all.
Possibly a stress problem as Im a huge worrywart.
Hope you have identified your triggers and reset your biome succesfully, would be great to hear more.
Lovely to read these posts.
I did start off rather well but, by February I got caught up in helping a friend with a new business venture.
Little did I know how time consuming and stressful it would be. Consequently I neglected my own needs, my diet and the psoriasis came back with a vengeance.
So I took a two week holiday.
Plenty of sun, swimming in the sea, relaxation, lots of fruits and salads (meat free) and olive oil. I’m pretty stable now and have picked up the book again ready to get back on it.
I’ve also taken note of the seaweed suggestion by Argussie and will be adding this to my plan. 🙂
Good luck manyanna!
Thanks for the reply and clearing it up for me. I will try it out, hopefully starting tomorrow and will repost results. Fingers crossed.
If you look in the Seaweed and Psoriasis thread on this website, you will see that Pia Winberg gave this advice on 5 July 2017. It worked for me last year and this year it has worked for me again. Yes, I consume 2 1/4 sheets every day. Last year I blended it into homemade vegetable soup, but this year I’m taking it without the bother of soup. You will need to blend it into something liquid because it is too dry to chew on it’s own. I notice a reduction in itching from the start, and then the flaring up just stops. I have been taking it for five weeks and am more or less clear right now. Please post again if you try this and It works for you, as I try to tell people about this and nobody can be bothered to listen.
Argussie, I’m interested in trying the nori seaweed drink you mention. Do you drink the amount you mentioned (2 1/4 sheets) everyday? It sounded a bit much so I’d like to confirm it please. Also have you seen any difference or is it too soon? Thanks for your help, manyanna.
Before starting, phase 1, which I am now. #1 challenge bloating. Discomfort on my digestive system is how I will describe my bloating.
My psoriasis is seasonal, and for the parts of the year when I have a particular problem, I drink a daily “seaweed smoothie” which reduces my psoriasis to almost nothing. I buy sushi nori sheets in the World Foods section at the supermarket. One packet contains five sheets weighing 11grams in total. I liquidise 2 1/4 sheets (5 grams) in a glassful of hot water to make an odd but not completely disgusting daily drink. I see excellent results within five weeks of starting. I have had psoriasis for sixty years and this is the only thing that has ever helped me.
Thanks for your advice, Firefox. I will start keeping a food and symptoms diary as you suggest and also re-read the clever guts and fast800 books. I’ll look what MM says about the night fasts too as I hadn’t thought about that
Ps I’m discharged from the hospital. I discussed with my GP easing myself off omeprazole as I didn’t like the risk factors of its long term use and he told me to stop them – no tapering off. He said, well if you get the symptoms again, you can always come back here. I got rebound symptoms for about a fortnight and it’s all settled down now
Ok, thanks. I’ll keep reporting any new ones 😀
Although all prescription medications have potential side effects, some are very safe over the long term. Please discuss the implications of going drug-free with your pharmacist and/ or the prescribing doctor beforehand.
As far as I can tell, Dr Michael Mosley’s ‘The Fast 800’ is the updated version of ‘The Fast Diet’ (5:2) and the ‘Blood Sugar Diet’, so you would not need to combine them.
Have you got back into maintaining your detailed daily food, activity and symptom diary as recommended in the ‘Clever Guts Diet’ (p.187)? If you have you could use this to review the balance and variety of your current diet, what calories and macronutrients (carbs/ sugars/ protein/ fats/ fibre) you consume on average, and how your serving sizes compare to recommended ones. Only once you know where you are can you determine where to go next.
In both the ‘Clever Guts Diet’ and ‘The Fast 800’ Dr Mosley suggests extending overnight fasts as a way of easing in to longer or stricter fasts. You might (re)read the two books, mark out sections and discuss with your hospital consultant, registered dietician or family doctor.
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I’ve had several posts on here going back to the early days of clever guts. As my name suggests I Keep Trying – to sort out my digestive health, my weight and fitness 😀
In February I was diagnosed with acid reflux, hiatus hernia and and inflammation of the oesophagus as well my usual IBS issues. All this was following a fairly stressful time where we’d had a year long drawn out building project to do an extension and new kitchen, we had no kitchen for a large part of this time and too many ready meals and overly processed foods.
Six months on, I’m much much better – I just have be careful and not to eat too many carbs. I want to lose some weight to help reduce the reflux, and get myself fit and healthy. So I’m wondering what would people recommend as the best approach to help me lose weight – 2 stone. I’m thinking of a combination of Fast 800, 5:2, and Clever Guts diet.
The advice I got from the hospital was to eat smaller, frequent meals and to try to lose weight. I was prescribed omeprazole, and once I started to heal, I weaned myself off them because I’m concerned about the long term use of medication. Doing a low carb Mediterranean style diet helped too.
I’ve kept to a more or less low carb mediterranean diet and I enjoy it and I think it’s why I feel so well, but I’ve not lost weight, nor have I put any on. I think doing fast 800 programme 5:2 might help me shift the weight but I’m worried about fasting and reflux symptoms returning. Does anyone have any experience of reflux and hiatus hernia and weight loss methods? Thanks for reading
Does anyone have any experience of doing 5:2 with acid reflux and a hiatus hernia? Would it make it worse or not?
Yes, anxiety and sleeping disorders are such a nuisance. They affect our lives and work. Magnesium plays a vital role in primary insomnia, for those who are suffering from it can try it as a night time regime.
With a strict elimination diet it quickly becomes impossible to eat a properly balanced and very varied diet as Dr Mosley recommends, and that is needed for health. For safety’s sake a full-blown elimination diet must be medically supervised.
Your first step is the detailed daily food and symptom diary for *at least* a week before you start, with everything weighed and measured (p.187). This will help you determine which food group or food type is potentially problematic and thus should be eliminated first.
Dr Mosley and co “don’t recommend removing too many foods at one time, so it might be helpful to do remove and repair in several stages” (p.190).
If you already avoid dairy you can continue to do so, but ensure you take whichever supplements your family doctor, dietician or pharmacist has recommended. If your issue is lactose intolerance you should be able to reintroduce traditional aged cheeses once your gut has rested. These are very low in lactose, yet loaded with gut-friendly probiotics.
May I start with saying thank you very much for replying to my question, and it was done in such depth and so easy for me to follow.
I actually went out after I had posted the question and funny enough bought the two books you mentioned well actually I bought 3 the other one is called CIS I think Thats what it’s called as I haven’t looked at it yet as I am going through the clever gut first.
The funny thing is I use to always be very fit with running and kayaking, but somehow at the age of 58 I seem to have lost myself with looking after the family and moving to 4 different countries with my husbands job that I didn’t think for one minute to make sure I was eating correctly, the worse thing was I was reading the gut book and eating a bounty bar with a gin and tonic 🤭 so I have only myself to blame.
New book new hope and again thank you for your reply.
I’m about to start Phase 1 to reset my gut and want to ensure I’m doing it correctly.
Am I to cut out all; dairy, gluten, pulses, brassicas etc?
The book says to cut out problem food groups in this phase but then it also says to avoid all so just not sure what to do? I already avoid dairy but not really sure what my problem areas am thinking of cutting out all of the above mentioned to be safe and then slowly introducing one by one.
Any help would be appreciated!
How are you getting on Charlorre?
Recoveringfatty: I would direct anyone to read Dr Mosley’s books again. In ‘The Fast 800’ he explains the differences between a very low carbohydrate or ketogenic diet, and a low carb Mediterranean diet (p.88-p.103).
Any eating plan should be healthy, nutrient dense, properly balanced and very varied. This is more difficult to achieve the harder you cut calories, or cut carbs, or cut fat.
Cream is high in fat …. and little else. By contrast full-fat dairy such as live Greek yogurt or traditional French cheeses are a source of protein, essential micronutrients and probiotic micro-organisms.
I’ve tracked this forum back over several years and still observe frequent requests to participate in the potato starch survey.
It appears that there is not going to be one so would suggest that interested would be participants conduct their own test and indicate their progress on this forum… I have been taking a teaspoon of potato starch in a glass of water at night and have observed a considerable decrease in arthritis in my fingers… I haven’t really noticed any significant improvement in my sleep patterns…
wow, you really have this worked out well. congrats, great effort and commitment. I drink lactose free milk but only in my 2 to 3 coffees a day. I just don’t like the taste of full cream milk, makes me want to pewk. 3 stone is fantastic weight loss. I haven’t lost any weight as yet, not that I am really counting as I am more focussed on healthy eating rather than losing weight. I have also have increased my physical activity substantially therefore can feel muscle building more than anything else. thanks so much for your reply, it is greatly appreciated to hear your great schedule and how others are doing it, hopefully someone else has something to offer. 😀
I’ve not ditched milk totally just avoid it during the 16hr fasting window which means my morning coffee’s. I vary my routine between 16:8 and 5:2 So three days a week I do 16:8 (actually more like 17:7 as I have evening meal hopefully before 8pm then don’t eat until 1pm the following day) and 2 days a week I fast until the evening meal. At weekends I eat ‘normally’ but avoid sugar mostly. My weights pretty steady, I lost over 3 stone a couple of years a go (5:2 and HIIT every other day) and have managed to keep it off and maintain my now normal BMI, if some creeps back on (if I cheat and get lazy with the exercise) I’ll do 3 days fast until evening meal 16:8 for 2 days, be more careful at weekends, and get moving more.. When I have Milk its always full fat but I’ve ditched Lattes for White Americano’s (less milk). I also read adding cream could be better as there is lower in carbs so doesn’t spike blood sugar as much and therefore insulin and thus fat storage. Its also more satiating so my curb appetite? However cream is obviously much more calorific so I would think it could be easily overdone, so I’m not totally convinced on this one- Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
How much milk are we talking about, and is it full fat (4%), semi skimmed (2%) or skimmed (0%)? Do you think it is the caffeine hit, or the ritual of the coffee you are struggling without?
thanks recoveringfatty, I am loving the 16:8 eating method not having a problem with it at all but its my milky coffee that I am struggling with. I enjoy the herbal teas (no sugar its a baddy) but the morning coffee is hurting as I also rise very early in the morning. Well done on eliminating milk from your coffee, great effort. May I ask how long you have been on the 16:8 and how its affected your weight? 😀
Hi! I’m doing some research for a project on guts and would love it if you could just give me a word or sentence about what your biggest challenge is at the moment – in relation to your gut. ie: bloat, IBS, leaky gut, SIBO, gut pain, constipation etc etc.
Hi Melodious! I always recommend to peel chickpeas to help reduce gas, so I’d say that alone is a good reason why it’s a good idea to do this. In terms of roughage and fiber, the whole chickpea provides that anyway and you’re probably eating the houmous with crudites, or perhaps wholegrain? These will give you a good supply of extra fiber too 🙂 enjoy it!
I can’t see a problem with herbal teas as long as you don’t have sugar. Personally I went the black coffee route but it has to be good, fresh ground (I make mine in an aeropress) I used to drink it very milky. I’ve got used to the taste without and now enjoy it. How about green tea? Its a bit subtle for my palette but you might like it?
anyone please ? 😀
I started with Michael Mosley’s ‘Clever Guts Diet’ book, but recently bought the ‘Fast800 Diet’ book. I likely have fatty liver, but am three weeks into reversing that (no alcohol down from loads of alcohol!). Today was my first big grocery shop since reading the second book.
‘Clever Guts’ is primarily for anyone with a digestive issues, not targeted at weight loss at all. It is a properly balanced and very varied Mediterranean style healthy eating programme. Phase One is about identifying and eliminating problem foods in a structured, scientific way. Snacking between meals is discouraged to ‘rest’ the digestive system, which would also support the liver as it regenerates and recovers.
‘Fast 800’ is the update to Dr Mosley’s 5:2 Fast Diet and perhaps also to his Blood Sugar Diet too. It is targeted at those who need to lose weight/ bodyfat to improve their health long term. It is a flexible, reduced carbohydrate Mediterranean style eating plan. There are three Stages to choose from: strict 800 cal a day for up to eight weeks, OR 800 cal a day twice a week, healthy reduced carbohydrate diet the other five days, OR maintenance/ slow weight loss.
Whichever you go for, read and then reread the book. Show your own doctor/ nurse/ dietician the book and ask for their suggestions. Do not feel you need to go in ‘all guns blazing’. You sound determined to change for life, not a quick fix which is great!
Many of us on the different Mosley diet forums have read two books, and are either combining or moving from one programme to another as our needs change. This is fine because Dr Mosley and his wife Dr Claire Bailey are both medical doctors who are ALL about health, balance and variety in our diet. Daily physical activity is also strongly encouraged. This does not have to be formal exercise if that is daunting.
Do post any more questions, I will come by each day to check for you. 🙂
I am about to embark on the 16:8 fasting and as I do love my coffee in the morning I was wondering whether herbal teas are an option to replace my milky coffee (not a big fan of black coffee). Any suggestions most welcome. Thank you 😀