Microbiome testing in New Zealand

  • posted by Wellylass1
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    Hi
    I’ve just read the Clever Guts book and really interested to have my microbiome tested, does anyone know of any reputable companies that would service the Wellington, New Zealand area?

    Thanks in advance!

  • posted by StephK
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    Hi there, I’ve just had a test done through Bioscreen in Australia, organised through my holistic GP in Auckland. Am waiting on the results. So I would contact Bioscreen and ask which GP’s/naturopaths in Wellington could refer, or maybe you could just do it direct with them. Good luck.

  • posted by rolandgirl
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    Hi Wellylass, did you find a company that tests microbiome in Wellington?
    Thanks in advance

  • posted by Buhler
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    Hi,
    I live in Auckland and would also like to get a test from Bioscreen. Could you tell me who you went to in Auckland to arrange that.

    Many thanks

  • posted by StephK
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    Hi Buhler

    Yes I can. I did it through my GP (Dr Olivier Caunes) at Holistic Medical Centre in Ponsonby.
    Boy did it show up a big problem. 98.6% Enterococcus Faecium when it should be about 2%.
    1-2% Ecoli when it should be huge
    Significantly elevated Eubacterium
    No lactobillicus at all!! Hardly any Bifido. Reduced Bacteroides.
    Dysbiosis big time!

    No wonder I have had chronic fatigue and IBS for 10 years since severe food poisoning

    If you are having health problems that nobody can explain..then this may be very useful to you.
    Best of luck
    StephK

  • posted by Buhler
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    Hi Steph,

    Wonderful, thanks so much for the info.
    I know I have a gut problem ( I was diagnosed with leaky gut 20 years ago at Auckland Hospital ) but it’s been a hard slog to on top of it.
    Things have changed so much in the last few years regarding the understanding of the gut and how it all works. There have been a few things that definitely help and I don’t feel as bad as I used to but I’m still not 100%

    Did your Doctor then put you on a protocol and are you feeling better?

    Thanks
    Lyndal

  • posted by StephK
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    Hi again Lyndal
    Yes he did put me on a protocol. Professor Henry Butt at Bioscreen (at Melbourne University – he’s well known internationally) told my Dr what to do.
    I started with Picoprep which is what you take before a colonoscopy which was designed to wash out as much bacteria as possible. Then I had slow release Amoxicillin (designed to stay in the gut for an extended time) made for me at a compounding pharmacy (Optimus) and I did week on week off for 3 cycles. In the in-between weeks I took Mutaflor (on prescription from PCNZ and expensive) and a probiotic supplement called Multigen (full of Lactobacillus and bifidobacteria). I am still taking these. I suffered from a diarrhoea dominant IBS and malabsorption for years and this absolutely stopped that. In fact I went a bit the other way. But what a blessing to sort that out! Now I’m pretty normal in that department. I also was on a 6-week very strict keto diet initially. Minimal carbs, lots of chicken and other meats, leafy greens and 6 cups of homemade organic chicken broth a day. That was a bit of pain to be always making!
    The type of bacteria that is dominant in me (Enterococcus), also causes the mitochondria in the cell to be smothered so you can’t make enough ATP in the normal way, that is, you switch to inefficient energy producing system resulting in the chronic fatigue. I’ve since discovered that using D-ribose powder, NADH, creatine and l-carnitine really helps to improve the chronic fatigue.
    So all in all I am much better thanks than I was a few months ago. But I suspect that as you have found, it is a long haul!
    I’m know noticing that introducing foods is causing all sorts of allergy-type histamine and sulphur reactions so I need to find out why that is…
    I think it’s really interesting that you say that Akld hospital diagnosed you with a leaky gut….I’m surprised they’d even now what it was!!!
    I do think you may be able to get some help from Olivier if you feel like taking that avenue..he’s quite up on this sort of condition.
    Cheers
    Steph

  • posted by Buhler
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    Once agin thanks for all of that.
    Yes, I’m sure it will be a long haul. Luckily I don’t suffer from Cronic Fatigue..
    I hear you about the Auckland Hospital diagnosis. It was more than 20 years ago and it took them a while to figure it out. I was under a Doctor called Prof Tasmin Jones who was the leading gastro doctor at the time. He was VERY narrow in his thinking and anything even slightly alternative was out of his thinking.
    At first they thought I was an anorexic ( which I wasn’t ) because I was extremely thin due to not absorbing anything. Finally they did a test which show very abnormal gut permeability ( leaky gut in today’s language). The only thing they could offer me was to put me on steroids for the rest of my life…….ekkkkkkk…….runnnnnnnn

    So my health comes and goes, usually depending on what I eat and how strict when it comes to eating ( no sugar, gluten, etc). It would be nice to get my gut a little more robust so it can tolorate more.
    I take diatomaceous earth which I find quite good.
    Thanks again for answering all my questions. I shall make an appointment to see Dr Caunes.

    Regards
    Lyndal

  • posted by StephK
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    Thank goodness you didn’t go on all those steroids!
    Interesting to hear about your experiences…and glad you’re going to follow up…a strong gut is so important for long term health.
    If you need naturopath support…come over to South Pacific College of Natural Medicine in Ellerslie (Arthur St).
    I’m a second year student (mature one!) there doing a Bachelor of Natural Medicine. We have a really good public clinic (called Paua Clinic) at the college for the third year students to work on people. Under supervision of course. It’s very cheap and very good. They know lots about gut stuff!!! You can book online if you fancy going.

    All the best
    Steph

  • posted by Buhler
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    Wonderful, thanks for the tip about the Paula clinic. I just might do that once I’ve seen the Dr.

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